How to Deliver Quality Software Against All Odds • Daniel Terhorst-North & Julian Wood

This interview was recorded for GOTO Unscripted. https://gotopia.tech Read the full transcription of this interview here (https://gotopia.tech/articles/343) Daniel Terhorst-North - Originator of Behavior Driven Development (BDD) & Principal at Dan North & Associates Julian Wood - Serverless Developer Advocate at AWS RESOURCES Daniel https://bsky.app/profile/tastapod.com https://www.linkedin.com/in/tastapod https://github.com/tastapod https://mastodon.social/@tastapod http://dannorth.net/blog Julian https://bsky.app/profile/julianwood.com https://twitter.com/julian_wood http://www.wooditwork.com https://www.linkedin.com/in/julianrwood https://s12d.com/goto DESCRIPTION Daniel Terhorst-North and Julian Wood share decades of experience to offer a nuanced view of programming, governance, and product delivery. By framing programming as a socio-technical activity, they emphasize the critical role of collaboration, feedback, and sustainable practices. The conversation challenges traditional governance models, advocating for hypothesis-driven product management and continuous feedback mechanisms. Through humorous anecdotes and hard-won wisdom, Terhorst-North inspires people to look beyond technical expertise to the broader ecosystem of teams, culture, and organizational alignment. [...] RECOMMENDED BOOKS Jez Humble & David Farley • Continuous Delivery (https://amzn.to/452ZRky) Nicole Forsgren, Jez Humble & Gene Kim • Accelerate (https://amzn.to/442Rep0) Kim, Humble, Debois, Willis & Forsgren • The DevOps Handbook (https://amzn.to/47oAf3l) Jez Humble, Joanne Molesky & Barry O'Reilly • Lean Enterprise (https://amzn.to/47pcOXD) Heidi Helfand • Dynamic Reteaming (https://amzn.to/3Fvu5BA) Heidi Helfand • How to Change Your Teams (https://leanpub.com/DRTGuide) Carl Larson & Frank M J LaFasto • Teamwork (https://amzn.to/4cFWseQ) Gene Kim & Steve Spear • Wiring the Winning Organization (https://amzn.to/3QJcfBp) Matthew Skelton & Manuel Pais • Team Topologies (http://amzn.to/3sVLyLQ) Bluesky (https://bsky.app/profile/gotocon.com) Twitter (https://twitter.com/GOTOcon) Instagram (https://www.instagram.com/goto_con) LinkedIn (https://www.linkedin.com/company/goto-) Facebook (https://www.facebook.com/GOTOConferences) CHANNEL MEMBERSHIP BONUS Join this channel to get early access to videos & other perks: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCs_tLP3AiwYKwdUHpltJPuA/join Looking for a unique learning experience? Attend the next GOTO conference near you! Get your ticket: gotopia.tech (https://gotopia.tech) SUBSCRIBE TO OUR YOUTUBE CHANNEL (https://www.youtube.com/user/GotoConferences/?sub_confirmation=1) - new videos posted daily!