How to Deal with Software Complexity • Gail Murphy & Charles Humble

This interview was recorded for GOTO Unscripted. https://gotopia.tech Read the full transcription of this interview here (https://gotopia.tech/articles/342) Dr. Gail Murphy - Vice-President Research & Innovation & Professor of Computer Science at The University of British Columbia Charles Humble - Freelance Techie, Podcaster, Editor, Author & Consultant RESOURCES Gail https://x.com/gail_murphy https://social.sigsoft.org/@gail_murphy https://www.linkedin.com/in/gailcmurphy https://blogs.ubc.ca/gailcmurphy Charles https://bsky.app/profile/charleshumble.bsky.social https://linkedin.com/in/charleshumble https://mastodon.social/@charleshumble https://conissaunce.com DESCRIPTION Charles Humble interviews Dr. Gail Murphy about the challenges in software engineering today. They discuss how productivity isn’t just about lines of code but is more about focus and minimizing task-switching. Gail also talks about the difficulty of managing the rapid evolution of system architectures, stressing the need for regular restructuring and refactoring to avoid issues like increased coupling and decreased performance. The conversation moves to open-source development, where Gail highlights how using open-source components can create complex, brittle dependencies, and the need for better communication within these ecosystems. They wrap up by discussing the evolving role of technical leadership in navigating these challenges. [...] RECOMMENDED BOOKS Heidi Helfand • Dynamic Reteaming (https://amzn.to/3Fvu5BA) Heidi Helfand • How to Change Your Teams (https://leanpub.com/DRTGuide) Carl Larson & Frank M J LaFasto • Teamwork (https://amzn.to/4cFWseQ) Gene Kim & Steve Spear • Wiring the Winning Organization (https://amzn.to/3QJcfBp) Ichak Adizes • Managing Corporate Lifecycles (https://amzn.to/3MjpRQV) Henri Lipmanowicz & Keith McCandless • The Surprising Power of Liberating Structures (https://amzn.to/3AtmXXt) Matthew Skelton & Manuel Pais • Team Topologies (http://amzn.to/3sVLyLQ) William Bridges & Susan Bridges • Transitions (https://amzn.to/3M8Lq6W) Bluesky (https://bsky.app/profile/gotocon.com) Twitter (https://twitter.com/GOTOcon) Instagram (https://www.instagram.com/goto_con) LinkedIn (https://www.linkedin.com/company/goto-) Facebook (https://www.facebook.com/GOTOConferences) CHANNEL MEMBERSHIP BONUS Join this channel to get early access to videos & other perks: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCs_tLP3AiwYKwdUHpltJPuA/join Looking for a unique learning experience? Attend the next GOTO conference near you! Get your ticket: gotopia.tech (https://gotopia.tech) SUBSCRIBE TO OUR YOUTUBE CHANNEL (https://www.youtube.com/user/GotoConferences/?sub_confirmation=1) - new videos posted daily!