Balancing Tech & Human Creativity • Kaiser, Greiler, Carpenter, Terhorst-North & Wardley • GOTO 2024

This interview was recorded for GOTO Unscripted. #GOTOcon #GOTOunscripted https://gotopia.tech Read the full transcription of this interview here: https://gotopia.tech/articles/340 Susanne Kaiser - Independent Tech Consultant & Author of "Architecture for Flow" Michaela Greiler - Code Reviews Expert, Trainer & Consultant @Dr. Michaela Greiler Adele Carpenter - Software Engineer at Trifork Daniel Terhorst-North - Originator of Behavior Driven Development (BDD) & Principal at Dan North & Associates @daniel-terhorst-north Simon Wardley - Thought Lord, Mapper, Mostly Good @simonwardley RESOURCES Susanne https://bsky.app/profile/suksr.bsky.social https://mastodon.social/@suksr https://www.linkedin.com/in/susannekaiser1 https://susannekaiser.net Michaela https://twitter.com/mgreiler https://www.linkedin.com/in/mgreiler https://github.com/mgreiler https://michaelagreiler.com https://se-unlocked.com Adele https://twitter.com/iam_carpenter https://bsky.app/profile/97adele.bsky.social https://linkedin.com/in/adele-carpenter-a988623a Daniel https://bsky.app/profile/tastapod.com https://www.linkedin.com/in/tastapod https://github.com/tastapod https://mastodon.social/@tastapod http://dannorth.net/blog Simon https://bsky.app/profile/swardley.bsky.social https://twitter.com/swardley https://www.linkedin.com/in/simonwardley http://blog.gardeviance.org Links https://youtu.be/lpNzR0fvxDw https://youtu.be/3HFRiBc0JZs https://youtu.be/BOodypoXCLQ https://youtu.be/tgaKAF_eiOg https://youtu.be/dcp6YMAmI3M DESCRIPTION Explore the rich tapestry of what it truly means to support developers. Michaela Greiler challenged the notion that tools alone define this experience, highlighting how collaboration, culture, and a focus on joyful engagement can transform productivity. The conversation took a forward-looking turn as they examined the role of AI, not as a looming replacement, but as a powerful ally that enhances human creativity, much like past innovations that revolutionized workflows. They showcased how intuitive design—exemplified by tools like IntelliJ—can make a developer’s experience seamless and enjoyable. Susanne Kaiser emphasized the need for diverse mindsets within teams to navigate the rapidly changing technological landscape, paving the way for innovative solutions. Meanwhile, Adele Carpenter raised an important point about the balance between AI-generated content and genuine human interaction at conferences, underscoring the need to maintain the personal touch in an increasingly digital world. TIMECODES 00:00 Intro 04:31 Adaptive systems through Wardley Mapping, DDD & Team Topologies 08:49 Rethinking DevEx: Tools, Collaboration & AI 22:31 Organizational changes with AI & tech evolution 24:58 Outro RECOMMENDED BOOKS Susanne Kaiser • Adaptive Systems With Domain-Driven Design, Wardley Mapping & Team Topologies • https://amzn.to/3XTmNCc Simon Wardley • Wardley Maps • https://amzn.to/45U8Upr Simon Wardley • Wardley Mapping, The Knowledge • https://amzn.to/3XQEeDu Matthew Casperson • DevEx as a Service • https://amzn.to/3Z62UIU Christian Clausen • Five Lines of Code • https://amzn.to/3s2zjyg David Anderson, Marck McCann & Michael O'Reilly • The Value Flywheel Effect • https://amzn.to/3VcHxC7 Gregor Hohpe • Platform Strategy • https://amzn.to/4cxfYdb https://twitter.com/GOTOcon https://www.linkedin.com/company/goto- https://www.instagram.com/goto_con https://www.facebook.com/GOTOConferences #PlatformEngineering #TeamTopologies #DevEx #GenAI #WardleyMapping #SoftwareEngineering #Programming #SusanneKaiser #MichaelaGreiler #AdeleCarpenter #DanNorth #DanielTerhorstNorth #SimonWardley CHANNEL MEMBERSHIP BONUS Join this channel to get early access to videos & other perks: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCs_tLP3AiwYKwdUHpltJPuA/join Looking for a unique learning experience? Attend the next GOTO conference near you! Get your ticket at https://gotopia.tech Sign up for updates and specials at https://gotopia.tech/newsletter SUBSCRIBE TO OUR CHANNEL - new videos posted almost daily. https://www.youtube.com/user/GotoConferences/?sub_confirmation=1