How Structures Affect Outcomes: Software Insights • Elisabeth Hendrickson & Charles Humble

This interview was recorded for GOTO Unscripted. https://gotopia.tech Read the full transcription of this interview here (https://gotopia.tech/articles/300) Elisabeth Hendrickson - Advisor, Coach, Speaker & Author of "Explore It! (https://amzn.to/3xbAGQZ) " Charles Humble - Freelance Techie, Podcaster, Editor, Author & Consultant RESOURCES Elisabeth https://twitter.com/testobsessed https://ruby.social/@testobsessed https://github.com/testobsessed https://www.linkedin.com/in/testobsessed https://curiousduck.io Charles https://twitter.com/charleshumble https://linkedin.com/in/charleshumble https://mastodon.social/@charleshumble Links Better Testing Worse Quality (https://www.researchgate.net/publication/2415090_Better_Testing_-_Worse_Quality) Managing the Proportions of Testing to Other Developers (https://www.researchgate.net/publication/2928929_Managing_The_Proportion_Of_Testers_To_other) https://youtu.be/wtmW89I941I https://youtu.be/RRp_NwBmcXw Henrik Kniberg (https://www.agilecentre.com/resources/article/creating-alignment-and-autonomy) https://thinker.curiousduck.io https://donellameadows.org DESCRIPTION From debunking testing ratios to exploring the impact of organizational structures on quality, the conversation between Charles Humble and  Elisabeth Hendrickson offers actionable insights for engineering leaders. With candid reflections and practical strategies, this episode promises to inspire seasoned professionals and aspiring leaders alike, providing fresh perspectives to drive meaningful change within their teams and organizations. To understand the future of software testing we need to understand its roots. Discover game-changing strategies for optimizing team alignment, quality assurance, and more! RECOMMENDED BOOKS Elisabeth Hendrickson • Explore It! (https://amzn.to/3xbAGQZ) Gerald M. Weinberg • An Introduction to General Systems Thinking (https://amzn.to/3vrUuix) Gerald M. Weinberg • Becoming a Technical Leader (https://amzn.to/3TvXZfM) Donella H. Meadow • Thinking in Systems (https://amzn.to/3VG0gYr) Peter M. Senge • The Fifth Discipline (https://amzn.to/4ayMoU0) Bluesky (https://bsky.app/profile/gotocon.com) Twitter (https://twitter.com/GOTOcon) Instagram (https://www.instagram.com/goto_con) LinkedIn (https://www.linkedin.com/company/goto-) Facebook (https://www.facebook.com/GOTOConferences) CHANNEL MEMBERSHIP BONUS Join this channel to get early access to videos & other perks: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCs_tLP3AiwYKwdUHpltJPuA/join Looking for a unique learning experience? Attend the next GOTO conference near you! Get your ticket: gotopia.tech (https://gotopia.tech) SUBSCRIBE TO OUR YOUTUBE CHANNEL (https://www.youtube.com/user/GotoConferences/?sub_confirmation=1) - new videos posted daily!