Structures Shape Results: Software Insights • Elisabeth Hendrickson & Charles Humble • GOTO 2024

This interview was recorded for GOTO Unscripted. #GOTOcon #GOTOunscripted https://gotopia.tech Read the full transcription of this interview here: https://gotopia.tech/articles/300 Elisabeth Hendrickson - Advisor, Coach, Speaker & Author of "Explore It!" @curiousduckdev Charles Humble - Freelance Techie, Podcaster, Editor, Author & Consultant RESOURCES Elisabeth https://twitter.com/testobsessed https://ruby.social/@testobsessed https://github.com/testobsessed https://www.linkedin.com/in/testobsessed https://curiousduck.io Charles https://twitter.com/charleshumble https://linkedin.com/in/charleshumble https://mastodon.social/@charleshumble https://conissaunce.com Links Better Testing Worse Quality: https://www.researchgate.net/publication/2415090_Better_Testing_-_Worse_Quality Managing the Proportions of Testing to Other Developers: https://www.researchgate.net/publication/2928929_Managing_The_Proportion_Of_Testers_To_other https://youtu.be/wtmW89I941I https://youtu.be/RRp_NwBmcXw Henrik Kniberg: https://www.agilecentre.com/resources/article/creating-alignment-and-autonomy https://thinker.curiousduck.io https://donellameadows.org DESCRIPTION From debunking testing ratios to exploring the impact of organizational structures on quality, the conversation between Charles Humble and Elisabeth Hendrickson offers actionable insights for engineering leaders. With candid reflections and practical strategies, this episode promises to inspire seasoned professionals and aspiring leaders alike, providing fresh perspectives to drive meaningful change within their teams and organizations. To understand the future of software testing we need to understand its roots. Discover game-changing strategies for optimizing team alignment, quality assurance, and more! [...] TIMECODES 00:00 Intro 01:13 Testing ratios 10:58 How organizational structure affects outcomes 14:07 Pivotal's organizational model 19:57 Alignment with autonomous teams 24:14 Challenges of layoffs & reorganizations 31:21 Word count simulation 36:37 Intuition vs reality 41:19 Resources 42:54 Outro RECOMMENDED BOOKS Elisabeth Hendrickson • Explore It! • https://amzn.to/3xbAGQZ Gerald M. Weinberg • An Introduction to General Systems Thinking • https://amzn.to/3vrUuix Gerald M. Weinberg • Becoming a Technical Leader • https://amzn.to/3TvXZfM Donella H. Meadow • Thinking in Systems • https://amzn.to/3VG0gYr Peter M. Senge • The Fifth Discipline • https://amzn.to/4ayMoU0 https://bsky.app/profile/gotocon.com https://twitter.com/GOTOcon https://www.linkedin.com/company/goto- https://www.instagram.com/goto_con https://www.facebook.com/GOTOConferences #SystemsThinking #ExploreIt #Intuition #Alignment #Autonomy #OrganizationalModel #TestingRatio #Reorganization #HowToReorganize #WordCountSimulation #ElisabethHendrickson #CharlesHumble CHANNEL MEMBERSHIP BONUS Join this channel to get early access to videos & other perks: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCs_tLP3AiwYKwdUHpltJPuA/join Looking for a unique learning experience? Attend the next GOTO conference near you! Get your ticket at https://gotopia.tech Sign up for updates and specials at https://gotopia.tech/newsletter SUBSCRIBE TO OUR CHANNEL - new videos posted almost daily. https://www.youtube.com/user/GotoConferences/?sub_confirmation=1