This interview was recorded at GOTO Copenhagen 2024. https://gotocph.com Diana Montalion - Systems Architect, Mentrix Founder & Author of "Learning Systems Thinking" Kris Jenkins - Developer Advocate, Software Developer, Podcast Host, Conference Speaker & Geek RESOURCES Diana https://bsky.app/profile/mentrix.bsky.social https://hachyderm.io/@diana https://www.linkedin.com/in/dianamontalion https://x.com/dianamontalion https://github.com/dianamontalion https://blog.montalion.com https://learningsystemsthinking.com Kris https://bsky.app/profile/krisajenkins.bsky.social https://www.linkedin.com/in/krisjenkins https://github.com/krisajenkins http://blog.jenkster.com RECOMMENDED BOOKS Diana Montalion • Learning Systems Thinking (https://amzn.to/3ZpycdJ) Andrew Harmel-Law • Facilitating Software Architecture (https://amzn.eu/d/5kZKVfU) Donella H. Meadows • Thinking in Systems (https://amzn.to/3XtqYCV) Donella H. Meadows • Limits to Growth (https://amzn.to/4d9sik4) Robert M. Pirsig • Zen & the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance (https://amzn.to/4ekfJU0) Bluesky (https://bsky.app/profile/gotocon.com) Twitter (https://twitter.com/GOTOcon) Instagram (https://www.instagram.com/goto_con) LinkedIn (https://www.linkedin.com/company/goto-) Facebook (https://www.facebook.com/GOTOConferences) CHANNEL MEMBERSHIP BONUS Join this channel to get early access to videos & other perks: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCs_tLP3AiwYKwdUHpltJPuA/join Looking for a unique learning experience? Attend the next GOTO conference near you! Get your ticket: gotopia.tech (https://gotopia.tech) SUBSCRIBE TO OUR YOUTUBE CHANNEL (https://www.youtube.com/user/GotoConferences/?sub_confirmation=1) - new videos posted daily!
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