Collaborative Software Design • Evelyn van Kelle, Gien Verschatse, Kenny Baas-Schwegler & Xin Yao

This interview was recorded for the GOTO Book Club. http://gotopia.tech/bookclub Read the full transcription of the interview here (https://gotopia.tech/episodes/346) Evelyn van Kelle - Behavioral Change Consultant at Xebia Gien Verschatse - Senior Consultant at Aardling Kenny Baas-Schwegler - Collaborative Modeling Facilitator at Weave IT Xin Yao - Independent Consultant Contextualizing DDD & Sociotechnical Architecture RESOURCES Evelyn https://bsky.app/profile/evelynvankelle.bsky.social https://evelynvankelle.com Gien https://bsky.app/profile/selketjah.bsky.social https://www.gienverschatse.com Kenny https://bsky.app/profile/kenny.weave-it.org https://weave-it.org Xin https://www.linkedin.com/in/xinxin https://bsky.app/profile/settling-mud.bsky.social Links https://collaborative-software-design.com https://bsky.app/profile/collaborative-software-design.com DESCRIPTION In a spirited discussion on collaborative modeling and decision-making, the the authors of “Collaborative Software Design: How to Facilitate Domain Modeling Decisions”—Evelyn vVan Kelle, Gien Verschatse, and Kenny Baas-Schwegler—explored the power of inclusive decision-making, shared understanding, and how to navigate social dynamics like bias, ranking and conflict in teams together with Xin Yao. They highlighted the importance of facilitating not just through structured methods, but by empowering everyone in the team to contribute and lead decisions. Drawing from their experiences, they shared insights into the process of making better decisions through collaboration, the impact of "Deep Democracy", and the value of being able to step back and allow teams to thrive independently. Their conversation also touched on resources like Thinking, Fast and Slow, Jam Cultures, and Sitting in the Fire—tools to help teams make smarter decisions and grow together. RECOMMENDED BOOKS van Kelle, Verschatse &Baas-Schwegler • Collaborative Software Design (https://amzn.to/4iv0N8I) Jitske Kramer • Jam Cultures (https://amzn.to/3ONLRVC) Danielle Braun & Jitske Kramer • The Corporate Tribe (https://amzn.to/4iqUaEl) Arnold Mindell • Sitting in the Fire (https://amzn.to/3ZJ374z) Daniel Kahneman • Thinking, Fast and Slow (https://amzn.to/4is0Jqb) Ge (https://amzn.to/3ZOzfE2) Bluesky (https://bsky.app/profile/gotocon.com) Twitter (https://twitter.com/GOTOcon) Instagram (https://www.instagram.com/goto_con) LinkedIn (https://www.linkedin.com/company/goto-) Facebook (https://www.facebook.com/GOTOConferences) CHANNEL MEMBERSHIP BONUS Join this channel to get early access to videos & other perks: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCs_tLP3AiwYKwdUHpltJPuA/join Looking for a unique learning experience? Attend the next GOTO conference near you! Get your ticket: gotopia.tech (https://gotopia.tech) SUBSCRIBE TO OUR YOUTUBE CHANNEL (https://www.youtube.com/user/GotoConferences/?sub_confirmation=1) - new videos posted daily!