Platform Engineering: A Deep Dive Conversation • Russ Miles & Kevlin Henney • GOTO 2024

This interview was recorded at GOTO Copenhagen 2024. #GOTOcon #GOTOcph https://gotocph.com Russ Miles - Author, Engineering Manager & Chaos Engineering Practitioner Kevlin Henney - Consultant, Programmer, Keynote Speaker, Technologist, Trainer & Writer @KevlinHenney RESOURCES Russ https://bsky.app/profile/russmiles.bsky.social https://github.com/russmiles https://www.linkedin.com/in/russmiles Kevlin https://bsky.app/profile/kevlin.bsky.social https://about.me/kevlin https://twitter.com/KevlinHenney https://linkedin.com/in/kevlin https://instagram.com/kevlin.henney https://kevlinhenney.medium.com TIMECODES 00:00 Intro 00:40 Recap on Russ Miles' GOTOcph talk 05:10 Platform engineering 15:28 How to work around the product owner 23:40 Wardley Maps 25:30 Complexity theory 27:25 Soft skills are hard 31:30 Quantitative vs qualitative approaches 35:30 Q&A 40:46 What Russ Miles didn't know in 2014 44:17 Outro Read the full abstract here: https://gotocph.com/2024/sessions/3524 RECOMMENDED BOOKS Miles, Giguere & Smith • Cloud Native Application Protection Platforms • https://amzn.to/3X4Bq4h Mina, Warda, Marins & Miles • Digitalization of Financial Services in the Age of Cloud • https://amzn.to/4gIYsow Russ Miles • Learning Chaos Engineering • https://amzn.to/412KEzf Chip Heath & Dan Heat • Switch: How to Change Things When Change Is Hard • https://amzn.to/3YLUYv7 Dan Pilone & Russ Miles • Head First Software Development • https://amzn.to/4i02JF0 Chankramath, Cheneweth, Oliver & Alvarez • Effective Platform Engineering • https://www.manning.com/books/effective-platform-engineering Gregor Hohpe • Platform Strategy • https://amzn.to/4cxfYdb Martin Fowler • Refactoring • https://amzn.to/3EVcHXQ Matthew Skelton & Manuel Pais • Team Topologies • http://amzn.to/3sVLyLQ https://bsky.app/profile/gotocon.com https://twitter.com/GOTOcon https://www.linkedin.com/company/goto- https://www.instagram.com/goto_con https://www.facebook.com/GOTOConferences #RussMiles #KevlinHenney #PlatformEngineering #PlatformTeam #PlatformAsAService #OODA #OODAloop #WardleyMaps #WardleyMapping #DevOps #SRE #ChaosEngineering #RussMiles #Programming #SoftwareEngineering CHANNEL MEMBERSHIP BONUS Join this channel to get early access to videos & other perks: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCs_tLP3AiwYKwdUHpltJPuA/join Looking for a unique learning experience? Attend the next GOTO conference near you! Get your ticket at https://gotopia.tech Sign up for updates and specials at https://gotopia.tech/newsletter SUBSCRIBE TO OUR CHANNEL - new videos posted almost daily. https://www.youtube.com/user/GotoConferences/?sub_confirmation=1